talk to us about that. what can you do to prove to the american people that, in fact, you are creating jobs in america, but you have to actually create jobs in places you're operating outside the u.s.? isn't that true? >> we do. i think the benefit is to multinationals in three areas. one is the wealth we create for americans. our to be is held by americans. chevron, for example, has created $170 billion in wealth through our stock price and dividends over the last decade. we also produce energy. every drop of oil we produce overseas keeps oil prices down in this country. >> yet, the oil companies as an industry constantly get bashed over taxes, over the profits that we see. in fact, in 2011, chevron was one of three oil companies that paid more in income taxes than any other corporation in america, which i find amazing. $17 billion in taxes. >> well, our income taxes in 2011 were about 43%. it's been in the same range over the last few years. we do pay our fair share. we pay taxes overseas. we pay taxes he